Mel Gibsons: The passion of the Christ

[Crazygamer]

Post your thoughts here!!! :) I thinkinig about seeing this movie.

[Kenshin]

yeah were i live its sold out for like teh next 2 weeks. Heh outta tell you something if the actor gets struck by lightening when he's playing the role of Jesus, Or maybe its because the hope refused to bless the movie HAHAHAHA yeah right

[TuckerXE]

'Fraid it's just too gory for me, according to what I've read. I can't watch someone get whipped and beaten for 30 minutes at a stretch. Maybe if it turns out the articles I've read are exaggerating, I'll see it. It's not that I don't understand what they're trying to show with the film... it's just too much for me to take.

[Luna Lari]

I don't know. . .I'm not a very religiose (sp?) person so personaly I don't truely give a flying flip about it. But I may see it if someone says they enjoyed watch Christ getting his ass kicked by soldiers ^_^.

[LavisBlade]

I saw some special on E! showing some of the special affects of Jesus on the cross... was fairly graphic and yet it makes sence.

And to be that poor actor that had to hang on the cross.... eww.

I dont care what people say about it I'll still see it... anything that causes an up-roar in the public I want to see.

[BluehempXE]

I'm going to see it soon.

[JasonXE]

I've seen it yesterday and I cried till the very end. Even though it’s not 100% accurate from what really happen its dead on. You get a new spiritual side to yourself once you leave the movie theaters but I wish Mel Gibson would of shown more of what happen on the day Jesus resurrected. This movie is deeply moving and quite gory. I suggest you close your eyes when they have him chain to a log when whipping him. The 2nd time they do it is seriously painful. I don't understand how people that time can do something like that? I have no resentment to the Jews but you think they would apologize since their partly responsible for what happen. Then again I’m thinking if they did not do such a horrible act then the gates of heaven would have never been open. I read in a newspaper that the Jewish people who were in the riot said to show me the proof that what happen actually happen and that is just as stupid as saying there was no holocaust. I understand that this movie can seem somewhat anti-Semitic but this is what we believe what happen so they should respect our views as much as we should respect theirs. (Even though some people on both half don't show it)

[WSkywalker]

I have a few problems with what Ive been reading and hearing from people about this film. First of all, those people who say this is historically acurate -- Well how do you know? Were you there? Do you know someone who is 2000+ years old? No one knows exactly what happened. All we know is what was written in the bible, and it doesnt go to much into detail about how much He was actually beaten and tortured. You have to remember the bible was written by man. How many different versions of the bible are there? How many different religions have broken away and formed from the Catholic church?

Second, I believe the Jews had a little to do with his death, who do you think were in the crowd cheering for Barabas when given the choice to free either him or Jesus? But hey, He came here to die for us, so in essence, we are ALL responsible for His death. Im not Anti-Semitic, Im from Jewish descent, but I am a Christian and a realist. The Jewish faith saw him as a threat and someone to be eliminated. The Romans didnt care too much cause he was a Jew. There are two basic theories why the jews at that time did what they did. As mentioned before, they thought he was a threat to the establishment. The other reason is they wanted him to destroy the Romans and be free. They thought if treatened by death from the Romans, he would bring the wrath of God down on all of them.

No one is really gonna know what happend exactly, until we die and go(hopefully) to heaven and ask The MAN Himself.

[slimscane]

I am going to see it saturday (hopefully). Jason, which book does it follow most? Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John? (if you know)

[JasonXE]

I m not as a dead on fanatic of the bible to tell what verus each paragrapgh is at but it follows most 4. Mel also input about his own view on what happen in those last 12 hours. The thing about the bible is that there always 3 out of the 4 that agrees what happen so it could be true or not. I m quite confident though that it did happen though. (will have to read it over tonight) Also i got a question for whoever saw the movie.... When Jesus got whipped, the devil past by and was holding a baby who look like mini me. I did not follow that part???????

Edit:

I forgot to add that he also follow "The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ" by Anne Catherine" I beleive she was famously known to be anti-semtic. He susposly did not know that she was though...

[TeMpEsT]

I want to see it, but I probably won't see it until it comes out on VHS/DVD. I don't go to theaters, too dirty for me. My town's theaters have too many odors and stickiness in them.

[TuckerXE]

Saw something interesting today - Kevin Costner was saying that Gibson wasn't trying to say "Jews are bad" - it was mob mentality. Thought that was a good point.

[LavisBlade]

Saw this on Sunday.... One of the only movies I've ever cried at. I did'nt feel like a pussy for crying either since everyone in the theater was anyway.

To me this movie was totally right coming from the Bible point of view. The devil/shadowy figure to me signifies how Jesus was always tempted and how he remained confident in God to do what is right.

Before I go further I would like to say I'm A LUTHERAN and not a Catholic. Both teachings are fairly similar to how Jesus saved us and so on but there are little things (add-ons) in the Catholic Religion.

Also this may be a Spoiler if you know nothing about the Bible and Jesus' crucifition.

With that said The Gore is placed in the movie to show the suffering he went through for us sinners. The whipping scene is very intense. First they beat him with sticks then, like it says in the bible they whip him with whip's haveing sharp objects at the end (nails and steel points). When I saw this I was not fazed much in the emotional section, but there was the AWE of the scene. For example when the one guy is whipping him with the sharp whip it gets stuck in Jesus's side and he rips it out leaveing a huge gash on him. Then they finally are ordered to undo him they push him on his back with blood rushing on the ground and continue to whip his stomach. I was not emotionally fazed yet... but I knew I was going to start crying sometime.

Now He's sent back to Piolet who tries to set him free, but soon finding that the crowd will not give he washs his hands clean of the trail. His wife by the way is also mentioned in the Bible as constantly telling him not to execute Jesus, which was in the movie. Piolet only did this fearing that if he set Jesus free Caesar would execute him for haveing another uprising accure inside the city walls.

Now that Jesus is in the Jews hands he is ofcourse is sentenced to death. When they force Jesus to carry his own cross (Also in the bible) all the way to "The Place Of The Skull". While going through the town carrying the cross he is constantly whipped, beaten, and gets rocks thrown at him... they push him laughing when he falls on the ground. Now at this point is where I could not hold back my feelings and I busted out. Mary incounters Jesus clamped under the weight of the cross... And he said something like "It Must Be Done Mother" and he picks up the cross full of blood and continues carrying it to his own demise.

Now he soon after falling on the ground about 5 times gets help from a man that didnt even know Jesus (Also in the Bible). This man was truely right in what he did helping Jesus, the further he went with him the more he noticed how innocent this man was. Then soon Jesus falls to the ground again leaveing the man to try to hold up the cross. The Jews soon start whipping him more and the guy holding the cross soon goes insane and screams at everyone, while he crys(Another part where I cried).

Now they finally reach the hill where Jesus it tied to the cross and the nails driven into his hands and feet. The worse part of this part was the guy breaks Jesus' Arm so he could get his hand to reach the piolet hole in the cross... they then turn the cross over with Jesus under it faceing the ground blood rushing from his body into the cracks in the rocks, so they could lift the cross.

And now another part that got me going was when the theif on the cross next to Jesus notices how Jesus is praying for all the men causeing him this pain and the theif then screams out damnation on all of them saying how this man does not deserve this, but I the theif do. Then he wishes for forgiveness from Jesus and Jesus says "Tonight you will be with me in heaven."

Then Jesus Dies the earthquake shakes destroying the temple like he said it would. And at this one point everyone that experienced the quake probaly realized that this truely was the Son Of God. Also something Gibson left out was the bodies of dead prophets that rose from their graves as the quake happened telling others of Jesus as they walked into town. That would have been a nice add-on since well the Bible said it happened.

Then the scene ends....

You see a bright light moveing the huge stone (Which were Angels, but you never really see them) and then you see Jesus get up with the Holes in his hands and walk out.

END SPOILER

This movie totally made me speechless... I honestly could not talk after I left the theater. Maybe it touched me because I believe in this or maybe because of how much hate and suffering occured, but this simplely was a great movie all round and I really dont understand the big controversy with it.

As for this....

WSkywalker
I have a few problems with what Ive been reading and hearing from people about this film. First of all, those people who say this is historically acurate -- Well how do you know? Were you there? Do you know someone who is 2000+ years old? No one knows exactly what happened. All we know is what was written in the bible, and it doesnt go to much into detail about how much He was actually beaten and tortured. You have to remember the bible was written by man.

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Second, I believe the Jews had a little to do with his death.

Both of these are your thoughts and I respect that, but I'm going to have to totally dissagree with both of these. No I was not there the PROPHETS were there through the whole thing Peter and John wittness almost all the pain Jesus underwent. And mostly this needs faith in God without faith you'll never believe this... does it really matter how much he was beaten? NO! why? Simple the man gave his life for us sinners, isnt that enough for you?

And actually If I'm not mistakened but Jesus gets whipped alot more then they show in that movie. He's ordered whipped by Piolet and Piolet shows them him and without a change in the crowd he has him whipped a second time and a crown of thorns set on his head. Then he hands him over.

Now as for the Jews... It isnt all of their fault, but the high leaders were the ones to blame. If you notice in the trial at the start many Jews come to protect Jesus, but they soon are kicked out of the temple. This was supposed to happen to Jesus, it was promised to many thousands of year before Christ was born. This event fulfilled the prophecy. If the Jews wouldnt have killed Jesus we would still be without a Savior as far as I know.

And now Luna you always manage to post something totally ignorant and blunt as to saying...."I don't know. . .I'm not a very religiose (sp?) person so personaly I don't truely give a flying flip about it. But I may see it if someone says they enjoyed watch Christ getting his ass kicked by soldiers ^_^." If you find this funny God have mercy on your soul literally. Go see it I dare you and if you come out of the theater unfazed your life will be soon short lived. I hope you discover the truth in later years... as of now you seem to stuck up to have feelings.

And with that I'd like to thank Mel Gibson for strengthening my faith with God through more modern technology. After hearing the story in church for many years it starts to lose it's meaning until something like this film comes around jolting the public.

[Crazygamer]

I saw it it was a really great movie. I really enjoyed and it depicted the bibles teachings well. I even learned new stuff from watching it. 9/10

[TuckerXE]

Good to hear from some folks who've watched it. I have to say that even if you don't believe in Christ (I do, FYI), it's got to be pretty amazing to think about someone being willing to go through all that for others. What I mean is, even if you don't believe that he suffered and died for your sins, it's pretty amazing to think that he did all of that because he believed it.

[JoeyC2k4]

ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES I HAVE EVER SEEN.it is a very good movie. its sort of gory but its the truth.im going to see it again


10/10 rating

[TeMpEsT]

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=3669

[TuckerXE]

In case anyone wonders, I've seen that same story written up by many different news agencies. As far as I can tell, the lady had a heart attack, but it's impossible to really know if the movie caused it or if it just happened. One report I read said that it happened during one of the really intense scenes in the film, but that's the best evidence I've seen that the movie was involved.

[Dr. Pepper]

I am going to see if tomorrow I think. . . .

[LavisBlade]

TuckerXE
One report I read said that it happened during one of the really intense scenes in the film.

lmao the whole thing was intense...

[JoeyC2k4]

i dont think died because of the movie.....she probably had other problems

[Luna Lari]

nah I think she was a religion freak (no offence) who just seen the God O Mighty (or Jesus wich ever one) hung on the cross. One thing. HOW THE HELL DID THAT GUY STAND ALL THAT ****?!!??

ps-pardon the french

[8 Ball]

Im going to see it. 117 million in the box office. Has to be good.

[TuckerXE]

They were doing a show on the History channel called "History vs. Hollywood" about that movie to talk about how realistic it is or isn't - wish I'd seen it.

[Rotten_Tomatoo]

i come from a catholic familly and im preety pissed of because this movies isnt a s accurate as it should be...first of all the jews didnt kill christ it was the sins of men that did and if i were a jeew id be ticked off like hell.

[TuckerXE]

Like I said before, I think it was mostly mob mentality that got going there, not so much that the Jews were "eeevil". As Tommy Lee Jones said in "Men in Black", "a person is smart. People are bumd, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it."

[Captain Obvious]

ok im atheist and im still going to see it b/c im thinking of going back to christen and i may do something...i dont know....um im going to post a thread about this maybe but i know that i dont believe in god now....but i believe in the teachings of the bible (if that makes since) um i want to see it so that i could understand better what is going on....but what is going on could mean anything now........






i just dont know now......

[Rotten_Tomatoo]

i actually dont know why i said those things:confused:...im an athiest aswell and i also want to go to see the movie...i guess im still catholic in my subconcious. (screw that im gonna go watch it)

[JasonXE]

I never knew how many athiest there was until this movie came out.

[slimscane]

there are a good many unfortunatly

[8 Ball]

Damn man. I have to see it after reading that thing on JoBlo.com. But my local theatre (theres two, one a the Soo and the other where I go to school) wont be playing it for another couple of weeks.

[Bumble Bee]

if u ever write anything else that long. i will shoot u.

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dang. and the topic is on jesus' love. im sorry, i love u.

[Jimmer]

I watched it opening night and i thought it was great! It made my sister who is an atheist think twice about my family's religion! I am Lutheran and i think Mel Gibson did an excellent job. It meant a lot to me, and i hope it did something for many others also!

[Boondock]

Originally posted by 8 Ball
Im going to see it. 117 million in the box office. Has to be good.

well, the bible's the best selling book in the history of the world but i like stephen king better.

[TuckerXE]

Ha - never heard it put quite that way before. Having read both, I'd say they both have their merits.

[slimscane]

I just saw the passion last weekend, i thought it was pretty good, but not great, and not as spiritual as everyone had said it was. Also, it had a good bit of "Catholic Only" things.

[8 Ball]

I saw it last night. It changed my view on life.

[Kantes]

Haven't seen it myself but for those of you who are going on about how can we trust something in a book that has no proof of it happening and stuff like that i'd have to say one thing

Its called faith.

Faith is what alot of the Catholic religion is based around, believing the book without having proof of it happening. If you claim to be a good catholic just that you want some sign that God's actually there, then stop calling yourself a good catholic cause you aren't one.

[slimscane]

AAAARRRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! :mad:!!!!

[Anarchey]

I just have one question, is there going to be a sequel?

[TuckerXE]

Oh, man... I wish I hadn't laughed at that.

Actually, he is supposedly working on another movie from that era, covering some Jews in a heroic role... man, I'm drawing a complete blank here. Maccabees?

[slimscane]

yes it will be called:
The Pasion 2: Little Jesus Big America
it'll be about mormans =)

[Kantes]

It better be, or ill be so angry, or it could be

The Passion 2: What really goes on in heaven... a story of clouds, harps and free beer

[Anarchey]

I was going more along the lines of Jesus: He's back and he's packin heat! http://www.ebaumsworld.com/manillus.html

[8 Ball]

We will see a sequal. It wont be on the big screen but we will all see it with our own two eyes. Soon, very soon.

[Anarchey]

How do you know your messiah hasen't already come? And sent off to a luny bin for claming to be the son of man?

[8 Ball]

I dont.

[slimscane]

Originally posted by Anarchey
How do you know your messiah hasen't already come? And sent off to a luny bin for claming to be the son of man? ... because then it would be the end times, and i don't think that they would take the time to through some guy and a mental instatute while satan and his armies are destroying the earth! Plus, last time I checked, it is a nice bright day out side, not the appoclyps:D

also, here is the name for the actual secual:
The Passion 2: Double Crossed

[Anarchey]

end of times. Heh, look around. War, death, plauges, aids, cancer, murder, rape, and the ice capades. Sounds like the end to me.

[8 Ball]

Yeah it does. George W. Bush is the antichrist.

[Anarchey]

Dubya isn't the antichrist, he's just way to dumb to hold a seat of that high of power.

[slimscane]

Originally posted by Anarchey
end of times. Heh, look around. War, death, plauges, aids, cancer, murder, rape, and the ice capades. Sounds like the end to me. when was there not "War, death, plauges, cancer, murder, or rape"? Never. AIDS is the BI-Sexuals fault =) (otherwise only homosexuals and herion users would get it). Ice capades aren't very big, if they were it might be a different story =D.

[Anarchey]

Sorry, that was a bit from the funniest man alive, George Carlin.

[8 Ball]

Anarchey, I am pretty sure Bush is the antichrist....or it could be Rick James.

[slimscane]

bush can't be the anti crist, he is supposed to appear in europe, or somewhere over there

[Anarchey]

http://www.jesus-action-figure.com/

[8 Ball]

He did appear there slim. He uses Texas as a front.

[slimscane]

hahaha =)

[Crazygamer]

This thread wont die lol

[Anarchey]

Not as long as I'm here. http://www.jesusfreakin.com/

[slimscane]

hahaha, that sounds like it would actually be fun

[Anarchey]

Shazaam! http://www.huggyjesus.com/

[8 Ball]

The three of us wont let it die!!!!

[Crazygamer]

Someone needs to bring out the shotgun and shoot this thing b4 it can go on any longer ;.... >:)

[slimscane]

haha, i like huga-jesus' eye facial hair (beard and eye brows)

[TuckerXE]

Originally posted by Crazygamer
Someone needs to bring out the shotgun and shoot this thing b4 it can go on any longer ;.... >:)

I could close the thread for you if you really want me to... ;)

[slimscane]

why would you close it, it isn't causing mass controversy

[8 Ball]

If you close it Tucker.....then we will not be friends anymore lol.

[TuckerXE]

lol - guess the joke's not the same now that I have the power to actually do it... He said someone should shoot this thread in the head, so I said I could close it if he really wanted, but it was just a joke.

[Anarchey]

*Repels Tuckers ability to close the thread* http://www.templeofblackjesus.com/figure.html and getting back on the movie topic Go Web! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3209223.stm

[8 Ball]

Jesus is such a bad ass.

[Anarchey]

This may not be office safe. http://www.divine-interventions.com/baby.html

[slimscane]

aww, awww! that is just too far!

[Anarchey]

How about this? http://www.templeofblackjesus.com/

[slimscane]

haha, no, that is just funny

[TuckerXE]

Originally posted by slimscane
aww, awww! that is just too far!

Eww - I agree...

[Anarchey]

Fine then, sorry. http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/product/panties/panties.html

[8 Ball]

Where do you get all these links?

[Crazygamer]

I have some mean things to say but i wont cuz I dont want to be on peoples bad side ^^

[TuckerXE]

A statement like that's enough to make even ME curious...

[Anarchey]

What do you have to say Crazygamer? And I have a secret stash of all kinds of strange/weird/funny links from all over the web. Kind of going with the christianity thing, Captain Obvious is no longer the third worst superhero, he was moved down to fith, and this guy officialy takes the #1 spot http://www.bibleman.com/