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Kenshin

01-30-2004, 11:10 PM

personally the new xbl should have a checker for pro action replay or enough feed backs of pro action replay usage and they are permi banned. Also you can cheat without pro action replay when the game loads take a system dump of the Xbox harddrive and you can edit the game's hex values which maybe what they are doing. My dad had a good solution to cheaters. The game server makes you buy the number of hours you can play and when you use them all up you have to renew it, if you are caught cheating the cancel your hours without a refund making you have to pay more money to play the game. Of course this only applies to games that require cash like XBL and MMORPGs. If i ran a server like steam or won i'd permi ban all players who have more than 10 feedbacks about cheating from different server admins.

SilentDeath

01-31-2004, 08:34 PM

i was thinking about getting an action reply...

slimscane

02-01-2004, 08:23 PM

yeah they get on my nerves, especialy the one i played with the other day, his name was championship, or something, and he was a HUGE wigger, and kept using maltovs... it made me very angry :mad:

SilentDeath

02-01-2004, 09:23 PM

yesterday i was in a game with maltovs users, it was on in that room cursin, insultin,negative feedback...too bad it was a dedicated server there would have been some banning

WolfmanNCSU

02-02-2004, 04:11 PM

Ouch, I dont play live, but I hate to hear that cheaters have found their way in. I remember how they kept bragging about how Live was suppose to be cheat free. Oh well.

SilentDeath

02-02-2004, 07:37 PM

its because of the action reply, its the gameshark for xbox

WolfmanNCSU

02-02-2004, 08:10 PM

Damn you AR, why did I ever get one...

Oh yeah, for updating sports rosters. :D

Rotten_Tomatoo

02-02-2004, 09:43 PM

IM reaaallly stupid so take it easy on me...what exacly is action replay?

WolfmanNCSU

02-02-2004, 10:24 PM

Action Replay allows you to connect a XBox mem card to your PC via USB port. There, you can download XBox saves over the internet and load them onto the mem card and transfer to the XBox. I use it to enter the names of all the colleges in my NCAA games (NCAA FB 2004 & ESPN College Hoops 2K4).

You can download save games with some hyped up stats.

SilentDeath

02-02-2004, 11:45 PM

so, this means people that actually bought the 40 dollar game update put it on the internet..people downloaded it using the action reply and got all the new good ****

slimscane

02-03-2004, 01:44 AM

something like that, it isn't fair, and it is gay, and everyone who does that in RS3 is a queer-mo and i would like to punch them in their faces (although they i wouldn't because they are more than likely bigger and stonger than I). But seriously that isn't fair to use weopon or abilities that everyone else can't.

Crazygamer

02-03-2004, 02:11 AM

So gay... report this to the better buisness bureau! >:( I hate these cheaters... One day the world shall be cheat free. one that is.

slimscane

02-04-2004, 06:06 AM

at least it is only in RS3 (from what i know), skrew action replay:mad: :mc:

JasonXE

02-06-2004, 04:45 AM

I heard someone was developing auto headshot, a lock on or turns green when aim at....forgot but i won't be playing rs3 at that time. ( NINJA GAIDEN)

SilentDeath

02-06-2004, 03:28 PM

yeah i have a horrible habit of ignoreing my old games, but auto head shot is gay

WolfmanNCSU

02-06-2004, 04:08 PM

Oh man, I never ignore an oldie. All games get equal PT.

slimscane

02-07-2004, 08:34 PM

that wouldn't be fair at all, xbox live is suposed to be a cheat free camunity, as soon as you bring that crap in there it screws everything up, i hope that Microsoft bans those xbox live player who cheat :mad:!!!

SilentDeath

02-08-2004, 04:44 PM

KEEP SENDING FEEDBACK ON THE BASTARDS AND THEY WILL BE GONE...and when you feedback them...get them for everything haha

Bumbico

02-09-2004, 03:55 PM

Everyone needs to stop their bitching. The molotiv cocktails are in the game to begin with so their is no problem with that, but the 2+ primary weapons is a different story. Give it some time before they have rocket launchers online.

You shouldn't be mad with people with AR. You should be mad with people that have modded Xbox's. Get your facts straight.

slimscane

02-09-2004, 10:51 PM

no, shut up, it isn't very fair in a first person shooter to have "haves" and "have-nots," it would be one thing if it were just new maps and crap, but it is weapons and abilities, plus, the moltovs are utterly powerfull, and there are no way that you can turn them off (like .50 call, or grenade launchers). It isn't fair. Plus, i am fairly confident you can not even get on live if you have moded your xbox (i could be wrong) but the people with moded xboxs couldn't do much worse than people with AR. So i WILL get mad at them, and i WILL more than likley report them. Single player is one thing, you can screw over computers all you want, but acuall humans is a different story, that is just a crappy thing to do in order give you an edge because you suck otherwise... :mad:

SilentDeath

02-10-2004, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by Bumbico
Everyone needs to stop their bitching. The molotiv cocktails are in the game to begin with so their is no problem with that, but the 2+ primary weapons is a different story. Give it some time before they have rocket launchers online.

You shouldn't be mad with people with AR. You should be mad with people that have modded Xbox's. Get your facts straight.
Ban worthy? i do think so....you must have an AR haha

Kenshin

02-10-2004, 03:45 AM

yeah they found a way to cheat on XBL personally I think if Microsoft gets enough feedback about cheating there should be a temp ban then after that a permi ban

SilentDeath

02-10-2004, 04:25 AM

first its ban for a day, then a week then a permi ban

slimscane

02-11-2004, 02:59 AM

i am going to send negative feedback on anyone who is cheating! :mad:

Bumbico

02-11-2004, 03:10 PM

You think that there are cheats for RS3 because of AR? Ha! Then you simply don't know what you're talking about. A modded Xbox is needed in order to get these hacks. AR is nothing, but sharing game saves. You do the same with you're friends so we do the same over the internet. What's the difference? That's right, there is no difference. Don't be mad at AR users, be mad at people who have modded Xbox's.

slimscane

02-12-2004, 03:30 AM

listen to what you just said... you idiot. Even if it is the people with modded xboxes making that cheats so many people wouldnt have them if AR wasn't around. So it is pretty much equally AR's and modder's faults, and all i know, is that people with moltovs or dual weapons are going to get negative feedback. AR made the cheats available to anyone willing to buy one.

Bumbico

02-12-2004, 03:01 PM

You don't share any of your profiles or bring your memory card to a friend's house?

slimscane

02-12-2004, 10:52 PM

nope, and anyhow, if that were just the case, a minimul number of people would have it, much less than do now, in fact, i wish it were like that

JasonXE

02-12-2004, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Bumbico
You think that there are cheats for RS3 because of AR? Ha! Then you simply don't know what you're talking about. A modded Xbox is needed in order to get these hacks. AR is nothing, but sharing game saves. You do the same with you're friends so we do the same over the internet. What's the difference? That's right, there is no difference. Don't be mad at AR users, be mad at people who have modded Xbox's.

you can download the 2 primary and cocktail by Http://*********.com and download the file LAR*****r. AFter that then you do your AR stuff.

Bumbico

02-12-2004, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by JasonXE
you can download the 2 primary and cocktail by Http://*********.com and download the file LAR*****r. AFter that then you do your AR stuff.

Huh? I know how AR works. :confused:

slimscane

02-13-2004, 12:27 AM

he is saying you are wrong

SilentDeath

02-14-2004, 10:44 PM

damn i missed participateing ing shuting bumbico down...damn

Bumbico

02-15-2004, 06:25 PM

I am not wrong. I have never argued something without knowing that I was right. At this point, were debating if AR is what causes all these hacks/exploits, which it doesn't.

Someone with a modded Xbox will release a hack/exploit and all AR does is allow you to share that save file like you would do with a friend.

JoeyC2k4

02-16-2004, 06:53 PM

Yes you are wrong. My friend DID NOT mod his Xbox and he uses Molotovs, and another thing, YOU CAN'T GET COCKTAILS IN THE AMERICAN VERSION OF THE GAME. You have to download them off of AR. They are unlockable in the European Version not the North America Version. So your wrong and everyone else is right.
Originally posted by Bumbico

Someone with a modded Xbox will release a hack/exploit and all AR does is allow you to share that save file like you would do with a friend.

Yeah that's a fact there, but like I said, Molotovs were not built in to the American Version, They were built in the european version. And American XBL players are not supposed to have them. But the part about the people with the modded Xbox is not true.

P.S.

MODDED XBOX'S CANNOT PLAY ONLINE.

Bumbico

02-16-2004, 10:01 PM

Time to make JoeyCK4 look like a dumbass...
Let's establish what we know:

What does AR do? It allows you to share game saves online much like you would do with a friend and whatnot in real life.

How does one get cocktails online? You need a modded Xbox.

Cocktails ARE IN the US version of RS3. Haven't you ever seen the AI in single player using them? If you knew so much about the game then I would assume you have. They do use them.

A person with a modded Xbox is able to get a program called Xboxplorer that allows you to look at all the files and folders on a disc. That person then finds the file the game recognizes as "cocktails" and then that person proceeds to move that file onto a profile that a human player can use. Once he selects the correct profile he gets online and uses it.

Now, when this person is online you can actually see the cocktail on the character when it's equiped or not equiped. Isn't it weird that something that is not in the game magically has a design and texture to it? When you actually have the cocktail, you can't see it yourself while throwing it. You know why? Because when the developers made the game originally they made it so only the AI can use it. You can see the cocktails on a AI, thus why you can see the cocktails on a human. AI doesn't haven't to see the cocktails while throwing them, thus why humans don't see cocktails while you throw them. A human will see the file for a grenade, but will have the effects of another file known as the cocktail.

Now, US and Euro Xbox's are different versions. The games are also different. So if what you say is true explain to me how a file(game) for a Euro version works on a US Xbox. That's right, it doesn't work. So your wrong....again.

Once someone has done all this they share it with AR and that's how it spreads. Now tell me, why is AR the bad guy here? It's not, it's the person who uses a modded Xbox AND even if there was no AR people would still share in real life and they would also share the steps to do it yourself.

I bet your the type of person who hears something online and assumes it's automatically right. Your explanation is of those who hear stuff online and thinks it's right and shares with other giving people the wrong information. For the sake of XBL, please stop spreading that bull**** story. Don't try to tell me that I am wrong.

Like I said before, I never argue something that I might be wrong.

slimscane

02-17-2004, 03:21 AM

ok, you never argue about something unless you know you are right, good for you, but (sorry) you're wrong. Yes, modded xboxes may have gotten the moltovs out of the game, but next to NO ONE would have them if it wasn't for AR. AR is the bad guy because it is a tool used by queer-mo's and fag-more's to cheat and give them the edge they need to beat the compatition. AR would be fine and dandy if it had a way of stoping people from going online with that crap, but it doesn't, and so it isn't. Also, don't say any crap about people sharing files without AR because you know as well as i do that if that were the case probably 5 people would be online with moltovs and the gay duel weapon thing. Becuase the xbox has a hardrive people don't have to buy memory cards, and not that many people do. I know i don't and why would I, my hardrive can handle all of my saving needs. I have never in my life shared a file with anyone. Not only that, but i have also never even heard of anyone sharing files. And, yes, the steps on getting them would be on the internet, but once again modded xboxs can't get on live!!! So i am not trying to, but rather I am telling you that you're wrong. (boy did you make joey's face red)

P.S. it is nothing agianst you, but you are just wrong

LavisBlade

02-17-2004, 07:28 PM

Wow this is sad.... how could you honestly say that AR is good. Personally I think Microsoft should sew the **** out of AR.

Sure AR doesnt cheat, but when someone puts a cheat on it LOW AND BEHOLD! it is now a cheating mechanism.

I've seen what modded xbox's can do in PSO... yes I talked with that gay ass clan 187. They were a bunch of idiots, but they knew alot about Modded xbox's. They did things like cause a saber to spin in a clockwise motion and while doing that the whole room would change in lighting affects. I saw a Dark Flow they had that comboed... and the coolest one was this PURE White saber they had... it would combo like a twin weapon but only had one edge.

NOW with all that up there... have you ever seen this from a guy other then a 187 clan member NO! Why? because I guess they wanted to be called the ultimate hackers blah blah, but the thing is they did not release this **** on AR. I have yet to see another person mess around with the files in such a nature.

BUT if this was released on AR then guess what.... EVERY ****ING LITTLE KID would have that weapon. They would dupe the **** out of it (WITH AR DAMMIT!) and give it to everyone to make the void in themselves feel better.

This is like saying, "I DIDNT MURDER THAT GUY I JUST GAVE THE MURDER A RIDE TO HIS HIDEOUT AND ACCEPTED DRUGS FROM HIM YEAHHH!" Guess what happens to that guy... he goes to jail to with is murdering buddy.

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Now I have a theory for this.... I bet when we are all retired and we go home to play on our Triple XXXBox Next Twin there will be laws that are actually inforced on cheaters. Why? you ask well it's simple... Our generation has the most gamers ever and many are very serious and over a very long time we will get sick of cheating... hardcore gamers will soon become senators and congressmen even President... and they wont be talking about medicare prices or our next due date for a new war, but GAMES! and how to enslave multiplaying cheaters. LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY! and by the way I know when all of the teens of today are retired we will do nothing cept eat sleep take pills and play games allllll the time. Just mark my words. Your days are numbered...You pussy AR users.

Bumbico

02-17-2004, 07:43 PM

slimscane, do you want to be wrong just like JoeyCK4?

Let's picture a world without any modded Xbox's shall we? We have no modded Xbox's, but we do have Action Replay. What purpose would Action Replay have? Nothing really besides sharing game saves with people. Now, where does the trouble begin with Action Replay? Well it begins when someone with a modded Xbox does his dirty work and shares his save. Oh all of a sudden Action Replay is the bad guy. I think not. No one would be complaining about Action Replay if there was no modded Xbox's. If Action Replay had no "cheat files" you wouldn't be bitching, but low and behold someone with a modded Xbox shared these "cheat files" and why is Action Replay to blame? Everything has a source and Action Replay is nothing without modded Xbox's alike. You are wrong my friend.

You have 0 valid statements. What have any of you said that actually has something to hold against me and Action Replay users alike? NOTHING! The best thing you guys can come up with is that modded Xbox's can't get on LIVE. All I have to do is use my modded Xbox and go online with the modchip turned off AND still use the cheat. Action Replay had no effect there pal.

Like I said before, I never argue something unless I am right.

WolfmanNCSU

02-17-2004, 09:32 PM

I have an AR, but I dont have live. I only use it to add names into my NCAA rosters or update my pro rosters in sporting games.

Oh, and lets keep the arguing civilized, or else I have to use this (again)...

http://www.brentroad.com/photos/00002958.jpg

SilentDeath

02-17-2004, 09:44 PM

bumbico, its wrong...DEAL WITH IT you lose its like 5 against 1 give it up

slimscane

02-17-2004, 11:09 PM

Bumbico, they are each EQUALY guilty in the argument of online cheaters, but 99% of the cheaters online wouldn't be if it weren't for AR, so i think AR is more of the problem. Yes, if no one modded thier xbox this wouldn't have happened, but also yes, if there wasn't AR i wouldn't have to look for 45 min. to find a cheater free game

P.S. you really took me down a few notches (sarcasm)

Bumbico

02-18-2004, 06:50 PM

Then it comes down to if AR users bother you at all. Even if I didn't have AR, the users who had it wouldn't bother me. The people with modded Xbox's is what would bother me. It all basically comes down to personal preference.

Oh yeah, I won the arguement....easily.

SilentDeath

02-18-2004, 09:41 PM

Bumbico
http://silent.fijimunkii.com/getoffmyinternet.jpg
i win :D

WolfmanNCSU

02-18-2004, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by SilentDeath
Bumbico
http://silent.fijimunkii.com/getoffmyinternet.jpg
i win :D

HA HA

Not bad. :D

slimscane

02-19-2004, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Bumbico
Then it comes down to if AR users bother you at all. Even if I didn't have AR, the users who had it wouldn't bother me. The people with modded Xbox's is what would bother me. It all basically comes down to personal preference.

Oh yeah, I won the arguement....easily. but you will never incounter someone with a modded xbox online. And you didn't "win" we sort of just had a semi-mutual agreement/compramise :D

Bumbico

02-19-2004, 03:14 AM

I won damnit. I have many valid points to your 0 or 1. ;)

slimscane

02-19-2004, 03:32 AM

hey, i had a ton of valid points, just as much as you. You can't when if you end on a compramise like we did. "It all basically comes down to personal preference." you said that :D

LavisBlade

02-19-2004, 04:51 AM

http://www.gavincato.com/pictures/albums/funny1/retarded.gif

slimscane

02-19-2004, 05:31 AM

... i don't get it... :mad:

Kenshin

02-20-2004, 02:40 AM

well there are other ways to cheat without action replay. All games can be modded from the cache dump put on the HD when you play the game.

actually many of the points bumbico made is right (i think i never really read more than about 10 words of the long ass posts) the ones that were right were the things about AR yes AR causes hacking but if AR wasn't there it wouldn't stop the problem. As a person that ****ed up his xbox modding it i know what you can do with a modded xbox. Many times my friend Shawn has shown me with his modded xbxo that it is possible, even with an un-modded xbox you just need to have a complete system dump of your Xbox hd after playing the game once and you can get the cache files that install on your xbox onto your pc modify them then FTP them back to your xbox.

LavisBlade

02-21-2004, 08:08 PM

Is no one other then slimscane gettting the point here.... WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD STILL HACK WITH MODDED XBOX'S. But if there was no action replay the pool of cheaters would be fairly low in comparison to now.

I'm going to use the music industry as another example. Say that there was no P2P Downloading programs for downloading music on the internet... PEOPLE WOULD STILL BURN MUSIC. Yeah just borrow a cd from a friend and burn it, but this would greatly decrease the free shareing of music in the BIG picture.

Dont give me all the technical BS I already know about that ****, but what I'm saying (and slimscane) is common sence.

SilentDeath

02-21-2004, 10:05 PM

no one is really engaguged in this argument cept u and slim, im just here to **** over bumbico

slimscane

02-22-2004, 03:22 AM

Lavis is helping me, thank you lavis. If you ask me, we won (not [I]won[/] won, but... ok, not won. I just think we had better points, and are more right:D )

Bumbico

02-22-2004, 11:48 PM

We know that AR allows people to "cheat" by sharing files, but if you read the whole thread (which you didn't dumbass) you would see that we are now talking who's to blame, AR or modded Xbox's.

slimscane

02-23-2004, 06:02 AM

i do read, we were saying two different things, which is why earlier i said that no one won because we made a loose compramise. I was saying that AR is to blame for so many people cheating, you were saying that modded xboxes are the reason there are these cheats at all. We were both right in different respects

WolfmanNCSU

02-23-2004, 06:04 AM

So everyone is a winner. Yeah. This thread makes so many people happy.

slimscane

02-23-2004, 06:10 AM

:D <---- i'm happy!

SilentDeath

02-23-2004, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by WolfmanNCSU

http://www.brentroad.com/photos/00002958.jpg
i just had to bring this back up :p

JoeyC2k4

09-02-2004, 04:57 PM

slimscane

09-02-2004, 10:08 PM

wow, you pulled this thread up from no-where, haha =D

SHNAG

09-03-2004, 01:24 AM

Hmmm, I could of swore i posted here... oh well.

Bumbico, if AR was just a plain old memory card, why the hell would someone by it. And if they did some how use a modded-xbox online it would be about 50,000,000 times worse then a measly dual guns and molatove cocktails :wetteardr . They could have the 50 cal fire gernade rounds at you! And i doubt a cheater would settle for less. I have a friend with a modded-xbox, its pretty nuts to say the lease.

Memory cards aren't completely useless, you can use them to play xboxlive at a friends house who has a xbox and hight speed but bastard parents who don't trust online stuff with their credit card.... well i guess thats just me. :toomuch:

I hate cheaters, experts aren't to bad but cheating is just plain gay. Where the hell is the fun? In mech assult i refuse to use a heavy mech in multiplayer, even in capture the flag I really hate too. There just borings as hell and i think only newb gay pussies with no skill what so every use them. Because they require ZERO skill, you just sit on your ass and shoot. I like medium mechs and light mechs. With light mechs i might not win but they are fun as hell to use!

slimscane

09-03-2004, 03:59 AM

^ haha, exactly ELAMENTALS FOR LIFE!!! =D

JoeyC2k4

09-03-2004, 06:15 PM

elementals are AWESOME

SHNAG

09-03-2004, 11:52 PM

I'm using the Puma alot now. Elementals would be so awsome if they didn't give off radar ping, but everytime you be one its like you become a huge missle magnet, despite popular belief, you ARE NOT ingored being a elemental. i never once was ingored being one. an other problem with being a elemental is you get booted alot.

i sometimes get booted just being a puma! Gamers need to learn to chill and relax, score boards aren't everything. the worst place for light mechs is diffently river city, as there is pretty much no cover what so ever a few minutes into the match.

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