P vs P Battles

[Zellery]

I'm all for player vs player battles in TFLO but they definitely need to happen in a controlled environment and not just anywhere you like.
Can you imagine if you will be able to fight anyone, anywhere? It will be complete and utter chaos.
You won't be able to walk more than five steps without some idiot attacking you for the hell of it!
It will turn the game into one big battle ground. I'm not even talking about fighting in town, as you won't be able to but outside I feel there will be just too many pointless battles going on for no good reason.
So with a bit of luck and the most probable route Level 5 will take I think will be controlled P vs P in arenas only. Otherwise it would just be stupid.

[LavisBlade]

To me P v P doesnt sound all that big in TFLO. I mean they make a world of 3000 people who have to work together to survive (as in selling weapons, cooking food and buying it etc). Sure you could be a queer and just sit in your little house you get at the start of the game, but you wont get any stronger by yourself like you can in most RPG's. This game seems like inorder to become stronger you have to work together with friends and strangers alike.

[eliminator2k4]

well it sounds like if there is no pvp that means no whores training all day long like some mmorpgs they would just atk each other to level up in each skill that sorta eliminates the idea. SO basically now everyone is going to whore the weak monsters to train my best guess i think but people will always find ways

TFLO seems to be perfectly balanced in almost all areas of the game so pvp is not goign to be a problem i think...

[SilentDeath]

pvp arenas are the way to go, cause random people attacking me would seriousl piss me off

[Zellery]

Agreed Silent. I feel p vs p arena battles is the only way to go to stop chaos insuing.

[JasonXE]

right now there are pvp arenas in clerica.

[LavisBlade]

Now when you guys say arena's does that mean other people can watch the bloody battles unfold in their spare time? Just like in the Gladiator movie :D?

[eliminator2k4]

yes what kinda of arenas are these? Can people just get inside while ur fighting someone? if so that would suck wouldnt it cause they would probly interfere and take his items if they die

[LavisBlade]

nah man they wouldnt allow them down. Havent you ever seen gladiator lol... I'd be sitting in the stands watching the dumbasses killing each other.

[NMercy]

Personally I think there should be PvP... granted it should be limited like no killing within town (except in arena) and there should be a buffer of roughly a mile outside of each town so you can do some dungeons without worry and other such events while still haveing the option to go elsewhere and fight...

Roughyl 90% of the world should allow for it, another 10% should be free of it... heck there could even be a whole kingdom where its not allowed, that never goes to war, etc....

[Risen_chaos]

it says so right on level 5's site, cleria kingdom has an arena, and yes, you probly could watch, but i'd rather be kicking a$$ in the arena =P

[Instermentalist]

i bet there is only pvp within duels between you and people from your country(in the game) i bet the pvp is the cvc country vs country you know it talks about wars and if so i doubt you can have massicerse in towns + if you could that would be cool to (the wild west) lol


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[LavisBlade]

That war against countries is a rumor and never was confirmed

http://www.truefantasyevolved.com/nmercy/rumors.html

[Instermentalist]

i hope they do have it though it would be just like daoc's RvR

[Kenshin]

yeah man I'd crush country with my bare hands once I got strong and then go on a conquest my new XBL name would be Napolean_Man

[Dexter Dynamo]

Yikes - Instermentalist, I hope you don't think DAoC has a good PvP ( RvR ) system. Its a big unbalanced, lag infested mess! The idea is good but the way it really works is terrible.

1st - There is a problem with the zerg factor - to many in 1 realm not enough in another.

2nd - As soon as more than 50 people are in a battle the MASSIVE lag starts

3rd - The realm class/race abilities are OUT to lunch - Look at the damage some of the melee classes from Midgard do vs. the other realms.

4th There is way to many classes with the ROOT/STUN/MEZ ability - you go out to do some RvR fighting a bard jumps out and hits you with a ranged shout stun and you get to stand there frozen and helpless as you are hacked down - not fun

RvR is 1 of the reasons I am not interested in playing DAoC any more.

I am not against a RvR type battle system - but more structure would be better I think. Its frustrating when your group gets rolled by the enemy every time you go out because they have a larger population of players in thier city/realm.

Maybe things where different on your server ( I played on Lancelot and had a Paladin. ) but it wasn't to fun for me or others I played with.

[NiXenith]

PvP most likely exists, I've seen pics of a thief fighting another guy on a dock. They're on the official Japanese site, I'll see if I can find them for you later.

[LavisBlade]

Well they really arent fighting the "theif" just has a dagger and and mean face. ;)

[Pawnzerfaust]

I think it should be like Ultima Online when it comes to PvP. If you are not familiar w/ the game there are shards which are like sections, which I would imagin to be like the countries in TFLO. Then in each shard there is one map. But there are two different types of this map and you can travel between the two. In the Trammel map you cannot be attacked by other people and only by monsters and if the monsters come into town chasing you then the guards (NPC) appear and whack it in one hit. The only time you can be attacked in Trammel by another player is if you in the same Guild (player created clans) or in warring guilds or factions (4 huge clans). The alternate is Felluca where in the town you can only be attacked for the same reasons as in Trammel. Outside of the town gates though you can be attacked by anyone. These maybe be off a little I haven't played UO in 5 months, but that's the general idea, of UO's PvP.

[LavisBlade]

I like the Idea of arenas with very strong guards... would be funny to see a guy get beat down by the guards.

[andrew6826]

Originally posted by SilentDeath
pvp arenas are the way to go, cause random people attacking me would seriousl piss me off

hahaha i fall in the random person with no reason to attack u category.

i'm all for the pvp arena's but i was hearin stuff like a theif could attack a person and steal all the money on 'em sorta like diablo

[Instermentalist]

personaly i think lvl 5 will have the pvp all under control i mean look at leneage 2 (still in beta) they dont have to much trouble with it getting out of hand.

[Lord Vivic]

I think pvp should be limited in a certian part of the Kingdom.Like maby there should be a region in the kingdom or an island in the kingdom that you can go to fight.

[TFLOfreak]

I think pvp is good but only in special arenas if it were everywhere then the game would be really stupid and unplayable

[Lord Vivic]

I agree with Freak.It should be controlled.If there is no pvp the game won,t be as interesting but I dought it wont,just because that is partly what you look for in a MMRPG.

[Point]

Have you people played Anarchy Online? They had arenas like that... and god it was boring.

"Let's go kick that Omnitek scum!"

"yea!"

*Goes to arena*

"So... I guess we just wait around here, eh?"

"Yep..."

I wanna destroy kingdoms, defend mine, go on bandit runs, be a pirate... I don't want to be limited to attacking npcs except in stupid arenas.

It just doesn't feel real if you have to go to stupid arenas...

Shadowbane had the right system... You had to bane cities - put a certain spell on them - that held for four days - at minimum - before you could attack them... gave everyone a good warning.

If you got attacked, guild members would attack them... or bar them from their cities... if the guild had powerful allies, you just lost yourself access to the best trainers and smiths.

Also, even if they con 'yellow' or 'grey' to you, they might still kick your ass... That's just a measure of their level.

PVP everywhere :(